Comments for Logic Writer http://www.logicwriter.org The bastard child of HR and Technology Thu, 06 May 2010 19:44:35 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 Comment on Social Media and the Openness Debate by Ben http://www.logicwriter.org/social-media-and-the-openness-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-243 Ben Thu, 06 May 2010 19:44:35 +0000 http://www.logicwriter.org/?p=281#comment-243 That's one reason I kind of left that one alone, Joe. If a company wants to block it for a business reason like the post talks about, then I'm much more likely to go along with their decision. If it's just because they want to lock it down and keep employees off, then they are just pushing them to their mobile devices. An employee that wants to spend his/her time surfing the web and checking out YouTube instead of working needs to get the boot, and just throwing out a policy to block those sites=looking the other way IMHO. Thanks for participating! That’s one reason I kind of left that one alone, Joe. If a company wants to block it for a business reason like the post talks about, then I’m much more likely to go along with their decision. If it’s just because they want to lock it down and keep employees off, then they are just pushing them to their mobile devices.

An employee that wants to spend his/her time surfing the web and checking out YouTube instead of working needs to get the boot, and just throwing out a policy to block those sites=looking the other way IMHO.

Thanks for participating!

]]> Comment on Social Media and the Openness Debate by Joe Brown http://www.logicwriter.org/social-media-and-the-openness-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-241 Joe Brown Thu, 06 May 2010 13:55:45 +0000 http://www.logicwriter.org/?p=281#comment-241 I'm not arguing for or against blocking, because I agree with you that there is probably some appropriate middle ground for most organizations. I think a much more important resource issue is that of employees' time, a far more expensive resource than bandwidth. The productivity potentially lost on the activities you mention is far more valuable than the bandwidth consumed. Of course, with it increasingly possible for everyone to have the internet in their pocket or purse, whether or not you can get to such sites via your employee's computer is likely becoming an increasingly moot point. I’m not arguing for or against blocking, because I agree with you that there is probably some appropriate middle ground for most organizations. I think a much more important resource issue is that of employees’ time, a far more expensive resource than bandwidth. The productivity potentially lost on the activities you mention is far more valuable than the bandwidth consumed. Of course, with it increasingly possible for everyone to have the internet in their pocket or purse, whether or not you can get to such sites via your employee’s computer is likely becoming an increasingly moot point.

]]> Comment on Here we go! by 25 Pieces of HR Awesomeness | UpstartHR http://www.logicwriter.org/here-we-go/comment-page-1/#comment-20 25 Pieces of HR Awesomeness | UpstartHR Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:19:23 +0000 http://www.logicwriter.org/?p=18#comment-20 [...] Allen Robinson kicks off his brand new Logic Writer blog by reminiscing about his love of HR and technology. [...] [...] Allen Robinson kicks off his brand new Logic Writer blog by reminiscing about his love of HR and technology. [...]

]]> Comment on Why SHRM is not the Antichrist of HR by HR Carnival of Global Giving is now open! http://www.logicwriter.org/why-shrm-is-not-the-antichrist-of-hr/comment-page-1/#comment-13 HR Carnival of Global Giving is now open! Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:21:18 +0000 http://www.logicwriter.org/?p=58#comment-13 [...] out why he believes that SHRM is not the harbinger of the apocalypse in the uniquely titled post, Why SHRM is not the Anti-Christ of HR.  When I read it, I learned that Allen and I are both alumni from the University of Michigan.  Go [...] [...] out why he believes that SHRM is not the harbinger of the apocalypse in the uniquely titled post, Why SHRM is not the Anti-Christ of HR.  When I read it, I learned that Allen and I are both alumni from the University of Michigan.  Go [...]

]]> Comment on Why SHRM is not the Antichrist of HR by Joan Ginsberg http://www.logicwriter.org/why-shrm-is-not-the-antichrist-of-hr/comment-page-1/#comment-11 Joan Ginsberg Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:59:31 +0000 http://www.logicwriter.org/?p=58#comment-11 Allen, this is indeed a thought provoking post. It's the 3rd time I have read it, in fact. Time to add my voice and experience to your comments. I totally agree that a lot of the problems with SHRM exist at the local level. But to me, that is like saying "the problem is with the employees". If there is a problem with employees, it is really a MANAGEMENT problem. I admit to not knowing the specific relationship between SHRM national and SHRM locals, but I think that problems with the locals, problems that cause member gain or loss, really need to be addressed by SHRM national. I have only been a local member for 3 months, and I am already VERY disillusioned. They claim to be one of the largest local groups in SHRM, and they may be, but they clearly have large problems, too. I belong to the national, but only because they were there, sending me conference bulletins. In fact, I didn't even know there was local and national differentiations for almost 10 years. Outreach on the national level is poor. And, as already stated, it's awfully expensive. I pay for everything myself, and I'm not working right now. How can someone like me volunteer to be a part of SHRM when the cost to volunteer is so high? China - are you still listening? My question now is - how can be change this? I'm ready to help! Joan Allen, this is indeed a thought provoking post. It’s the 3rd time I have read it, in fact. Time to add my voice and experience to your comments.

I totally agree that a lot of the problems with SHRM exist at the local level. But to me, that is like saying “the problem is with the employees”. If there is a problem with employees, it is really a MANAGEMENT problem.

I admit to not knowing the specific relationship between SHRM national and SHRM locals, but I think that problems with the locals, problems that cause member gain or loss, really need to be addressed by SHRM national.

I have only been a local member for 3 months, and I am already VERY disillusioned. They claim to be one of the largest local groups in SHRM, and they may be, but they clearly have large problems, too.

I belong to the national, but only because they were there, sending me conference bulletins. In fact, I didn’t even know there was local and national differentiations for almost 10 years. Outreach on the national level is poor. And, as already stated, it’s awfully expensive. I pay for everything myself, and I’m not working right now. How can someone like me volunteer to be a part of SHRM when the cost to volunteer is so high?

China – are you still listening?

My question now is – how can be change this? I’m ready to help!

Joan

]]> Comment on Here we go! by Sarah Nguyen http://www.logicwriter.org/here-we-go/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Sarah Nguyen Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:21:54 +0000 http://www.logicwriter.org/?p=18#comment-10 Welcome to the HR blogging community! You're an older newcomer than me by a few days :). I think your comment about HR being akin to a secret club hit the nail on the head. For me, that's one of the reasons I started blogging. I look forward to reading your future posts. Welcome to the HR blogging community! You’re an older newcomer than me by a few days :) .

I think your comment about HR being akin to a secret club hit the nail on the head. For me, that’s one of the reasons I started blogging.

I look forward to reading your future posts.

]]> Comment on Why SHRM is not the Antichrist of HR by Allen Robinson http://www.logicwriter.org/why-shrm-is-not-the-antichrist-of-hr/comment-page-1/#comment-9 Allen Robinson Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:28:18 +0000 http://www.logicwriter.org/?p=58#comment-9 I would like to thank everyone for taking their time to read my post and leaving comments. Thank you! I would like to thank everyone for taking their time to read my post and leaving comments. Thank you!

]]> Comment on Why SHRM is not the Antichrist of HR by Ben Eubanks http://www.logicwriter.org/why-shrm-is-not-the-antichrist-of-hr/comment-page-1/#comment-8 Ben Eubanks Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:11:50 +0000 http://www.logicwriter.org/?p=58#comment-8 Great post, Allen. I think Trish's experience is a common one. Local chapters are the "face" of SHRM to most HR pros, and a sucky one can damage someone's perspective of the overall organization. If you're lucky enough to be in one like NASHRM or BBSHRM, you just might get your money's worth instead of an endless stream of "legislative updates." :-) Great post, Allen. I think Trish’s experience is a common one. Local chapters are the “face” of SHRM to most HR pros, and a sucky one can damage someone’s perspective of the overall organization. If you’re lucky enough to be in one like NASHRM or BBSHRM, you just might get your money’s worth instead of an endless stream of “legislative updates.” :-)

]]> Comment on Why SHRM is not the Antichrist of HR by Trish McFarlane http://www.logicwriter.org/why-shrm-is-not-the-antichrist-of-hr/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Trish McFarlane Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:26:47 +0000 http://www.logicwriter.org/?p=58#comment-7 Nice post. Great to see you add your voice to the mix Allen. It sounds like you had some great experiences with SHRM early in your career. I think the SHRM relationship is a very individual experience though. I also think that relationship depends a great deal on where you live. If I were in Florida, for example, I can assure you I would still be a card-carrying-member of SHRM because they have very active chapters that do a great deal. But I don't. I live in IL, outside of St. Louis. Years ago, I went to some local meetings here and got nada. No guidance, no support. I did use the national site thought occasionally for webinars or white papers. I remained a member up until about 2007 when I was laid off. I could not justify paying the $160 membership when I did not have a job. Since then, my new company will not pay for membership. I'm not "anti-SHRM", but I'm also not racing to pay that fee when I'm not sure what that will get me these days. I love having China Gorman and Eric Peterson available and approachable on Twitter. I admire them both very much. I can tell you that IF I pay that fee out of my own pocket, it will purely be because of my respect for them and the face of change that they are putting on SHRM. I hope that SHRM will embrace more Gen x and Gen y thinkers. That would be a draw for me too. Nice post. Great to see you add your voice to the mix Allen. It sounds like you had some great experiences with SHRM early in your career. I think the SHRM relationship is a very individual experience though. I also think that relationship depends a great deal on where you live. If I were in Florida, for example, I can assure you I would still be a card-carrying-member of SHRM because they have very active chapters that do a great deal. But I don’t. I live in IL, outside of St. Louis. Years ago, I went to some local meetings here and got nada. No guidance, no support. I did use the national site thought occasionally for webinars or white papers. I remained a member up until about 2007 when I was laid off. I could not justify paying the $160 membership when I did not have a job.

Since then, my new company will not pay for membership. I’m not “anti-SHRM”, but I’m also not racing to pay that fee when I’m not sure what that will get me these days. I love having China Gorman and Eric Peterson available and approachable on Twitter. I admire them both very much. I can tell you that IF I pay that fee out of my own pocket, it will purely be because of my respect for them and the face of change that they are putting on SHRM. I hope that SHRM will embrace more Gen x and Gen y thinkers. That would be a draw for me too.

]]> Comment on Why SHRM is not the Antichrist of HR by jkjhr http://www.logicwriter.org/why-shrm-is-not-the-antichrist-of-hr/comment-page-1/#comment-6 jkjhr Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:20:05 +0000 http://www.logicwriter.org/?p=58#comment-6 A good perspective on an impotant part of SHRM's contribution to the profession. It's key to add to the education of prospective HR practioners beyond what can be found in textbooks. SHRM research, the HR games and the student chapters all add to that knowledge. I have involved for a number of years in the HR games and am always re-energized by the enthusiasm and passion that is shown in those events. A good perspective on an impotant part of SHRM’s contribution to the profession. It’s key to add to the education of prospective HR practioners beyond what can be found in textbooks. SHRM research, the HR games and the student chapters all add to that knowledge. I have involved for a number of years in the HR games and am always re-energized by the enthusiasm and passion that is shown in those events.

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